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Adam
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Post subject: Error when trying to find integral closure Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:46 pm |
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I've had issues with this before, I assumed it was because I asked for something too difficult. This isn't likely the case this time. Here's what I did: > LIB "normal.lib"; > ring R=complex,(x,y),dp; > ideal I=y^7-(x^3)*((x-5)^4); > list J=normal(I); To which it replied: // Computing the equidimensional decomposition... [1]: _[1]=x7-y7-20*x6+150*x5-500*x4+625*x3
// number of components is 1
pause> // start computation of component 1 -------------------------------- We compute the normalization in the ring // characteristic : 0 (complex:3 digits, additional 6 digits) // 1 parameter : i // minpoly : (i^2+1) // number of vars : 2 // block 1 : ordering dp // : names x y // block 2 : ordering C Computing the jacobian ideal...
The universal denominator is x5-15*x4+75*x3-125*x2 The original singular locus is _[1]=x5-15*x4+75*x3-125*x2 _[2]=y6 pause>
// mindeg, exponent, vdim used in 'locAtZero': 5 30 30
? not implemented ? error occurred in or before primdec.lib::sep line 3709: ` poly h=gcd(f,diff(f,var(i)));` ? expected poly-expression. type 'help poly;' ? leaving primdec.lib::sep skipping text from `;` error at token `)` ? leaving primdec.lib::zeroRad ? leaving primdec.lib::radical ? leaving normal.lib::normalM ? leaving normal.lib::normal
This can't be because it's too difficult, right? I must be doing something wrong. What is it?
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hannes
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Post subject: Re: Error when trying to find integral closure Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:42 pm |
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Joined: Wed May 25, 2005 4:16 pm Posts: 275
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gcd computations of polynomial with inexact coefficients are very challenging and not implemented in Singular. If you want to compute with exact coefficients, define your ring as follows: ring r=(0,i),(x,y),dp; minpoly=i2+1; or, even better, as: ring r=0,(x,y),dp;
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Guest
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Post subject: Re: Error when trying to find integral closure Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:33 am |
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In general you should use as field, the smallest field containing all of the coefficients, and never anything such as the reals or complexes which could introduce round-off error.
And, given that you wrote the defining relation as y^7-x^3*(x-5)^4=0, you probably meant it to be an integral extension of F[x] That means you should have tried ring r=0,(y,x),dp; instead of ring r=0,(x,y),dp; with dp (or equivalently wp(7,7)) as the monomial ordering.
Had the ideal been generated by y^5-x^3*(x-5)^4, then ring r=0, (y,x), wp(7,5) would have been a better choice.
Doug
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