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 Post subject: Eine Frage!
PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:36 pm 
Kann Singular die Frage nach der Existenz von Lösungen eines Gleichungssystems nach gewisser Körpererweiterung beanworten?

z.b habe ich 2 Gleichungen:

(1) x^2 - tu^2 + t = ( t^2u^2 - t )y^2 \neq 0

(2) x^2 - 2tu^2 + 1/t = t(t^2u^2 - t)z^2 \neq 0

über Q(t) oder C(t) definiert, wobei x,y,z,u Unbestimmte sind. Ich wollte mal wissen ob das system nach einer Körpererweiterung vom ungeraden Grad, spricht 3,5,7...eine Lösung hat. Kann ich das dann mit Singular programmieren?


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 Post subject: Re: Eine Frage!
PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:25 am 
No one want to reply me? :( i should post then my question once again.

Suppose we are given a system of equations, say

(1) x^2 - tu^2 + t = ( t^2u^2 - t )y^2 \neq 0

(2) x^2 - 2tu^2 + 1/t = t(t^2u^2 - t)z^2 \neq 0

where x,y,z,u are variables and these equations are defined over C(t). Can Singular tell me if i have a solution after a field extension of degree odd?


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 Post subject: Re: Eine Frage!
PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:31 pm 

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Your question is somehow selfcontrdaticting:

With "\neq 0" it is not an equation.

Supposed that you mean "=0", then see

System of polynomial equations
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1801&start=0

where a problem similar to yours is discussed.


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 Post subject: Re: Eine Frage!
PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:38 pm 
No there is no contradiction here. The last \neq 0 means that you consider an open dense Zariski subset of the affine variety defined by the equations.


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 Post subject: Re: Eine Frage!
PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:51 pm 

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LDT wrote:
No there is no contradiction here. The last \neq 0 means that you consider an open dense Zariski subset of the affine variety defined by the equations.


To clarify your problem, let us recall first the mathematical terminology:

...=0 is called an equation

..\neq 0 is called an inequality, (Ungleichung in German).


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 Post subject: Re: Eine Frage!
PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:40 pm 
When i wrote

U = {f(x,y,z,u) = g(x,y,z,u) \neq 0 }

it means that U is an open subset of

X = {f(x,y,z,u) = g(x,y,z,u)}.


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