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magichowlNew
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Post subject: How to use NTL in singular? Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:39 am |
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I want to generate a random element in a finite field, (may not be a prime field), do I have to write dynamic module? And I can't find a file to reference with the sourcecode written in the structure of dynamic module. Besides, how can I use NTL in singular? Should I write dynamic module too? Thank you
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mlee
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Post subject: Re: How to use NTL in singular? Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:06 pm |
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Joined: Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:05 pm Posts: 5
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Hi, you can use the function random in a prime field or sparsepoly in a non prime field (Please check the manual). NTL is used by default for univariate gcd and factorization. If you need NTL for anything besides this let me know.
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magichowl
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Post subject: Re: How to use NTL in singular? Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:43 am |
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Joined: Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:22 am Posts: 12
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but sparsepoly can not generate a random element of the field with equal posibility...
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gorzel
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Post subject: Re: How to use NTL in singular? Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:56 pm |
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magichowl
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Post subject: Re: How to use NTL in singular? Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:51 am |
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Joined: Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:22 am Posts: 12
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Say, GF(3^3), I want randomly generate a element in this field, and each one with equal possibility to be outputted.
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mlee
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Post subject: Re: How to use NTL in singular? Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:36 am |
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Joined: Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:05 pm Posts: 5
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Hi Try something like LIB "random.lib"; ring r= 3,x,dp; poly f= sparsepoly (0,2,50,4);
ring s=(3,a),(x,y),dp; minpoly= a3+2a+1; map m= r,a; m (f); The sparsepoly (0,2,50,4) creates a random polynomial in x with coefficients in the range [1,4) of degree between 0 and 2. And each monomial is zero with probability 0,5. The last 4 lines maps this polynomial to a ring s with coefficients from Z/3Z[a]/ (a3+2a+1).
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magichowl
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Post subject: Re: How to use NTL in singular? Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 4:01 am |
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Joined: Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:22 am Posts: 12
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Each coefficient of the monomial in f is zero with probability 1/3. So f must be defined as poly f = sparsepoly (0,2,0,4);
Don't you think so?
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mlee
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Post subject: Re: How to use NTL in singular? Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 2:36 pm |
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Joined: Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:05 pm Posts: 5
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If you want a uniformly random element of GF (3^3) you're right.
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magichowl
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Post subject: Re: How to use NTL in singular? Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:09 am |
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Joined: Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:22 am Posts: 12
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Thanks. But when I define a ring: ring s=(9,a),(x,y),dp; s; // # ground field : 9 // primitive element : a // minpoly : 1*a^2+2*a^1+2*a^0 // number of vars : 2 // block 1 : ordering dp // : names x y // block 2 : ordering C
then i can't reduce the elememts like a^6 or a7x2+a9y; what i mean is to present the coefficients by the basis { 1, a }, in fact a^6 is (-a-1);
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mlee
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Post subject: Re: How to use NTL in singular? Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:24 pm |
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